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Not do something systematic not just august 2nd or august 9th if we did not change the way washington spends we will have this information for congresses to come, and is what we are called reactionaries and we are call a whole host of negative and some accurate things and i think what we really are interested in is having transformative generation am systematic change in the way washington does business. >>neil: congressman, what do you say to those who argue now is not the time to do that? now is not the time to play with it? what did you say to that? >>guest: i would grow. the time was about...

If you do, either spending contributes to it or it doesn't. republicans rationally believe yes, spending is contributing to the debt problem. we only had as a country three of these pressure points you talked about, rowland, the 2011 budget, the debt ceiling and now the 2012 budget. i suggest we not hold it hostage, and i don't think they will, we'll be left with only one negotiating point left, the 2012 budget and not another thing left to show for it. >> you're right on one point, and that is you say only republicans get it. no, they get it when it comes to social security. they get it when ...

Allow democrats to compete in elections, particularly against corporate money. whether or not union contracts have any effect on state budgets or not, if you get rid of unions, if you make unions disappear, particularly if you make public sector unions disappear, then the corporate interests that give big money to republicans in elections, they have no competition. so democrats can't ever win. last year out of the top ten outside spending groups in that election, we've seen this before, right? 7 of those groups made their donations to the right. only 3 of the 10 made their donations to the lef...

Make public sector unions disappear, then the corporate interests that give big money to republicans in elections, they have no competition. so democrats can't ever win. last year out of the top ten outside spending groups in that election, we've seen this before, right? 7 of those groups made their donations to the right. only 3 of the 10 made their donations to the left. and all three donating to the left were unions. if the unions are gone, republicans run the table. democrats cannot compete when it comes to big money and elections without the unions. therefore, the unions must die. it's no...

Midterm elections. democrats don't want to be caught off guard. >> why can't they do what these other independent expenditure groups do? >> they are. and they are starting and very concerned that they are a little late. republicans got a jump-start and they won't be able to raises much money. >> because the last time, $745 million they raised but all of those caucuses and primaries and democrats we were fighting the president now he is running unopposed and the incumbent, i tweeted this earlier, tremendous response on twitter. he's the incumbent with a built-in advantage. he needs $1 billion? ...