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Absolutely. >> excuse me. what did you just say? >> you're talking about anchor babies. >> no, birtherism, i'm talking about donald trump doubting that the president of the united states is an american, accusing him of faking his birth certificate. this is the -- >> i didn't realize that was a policy. >> african american judge who might be offended by birtherism could not preside over a case involving donald trump if they were offended -- >> that doesn't make any sense at all whatsoever. black people are not offended because maybe somebody was or was not born in this country. barack obama is n...

Panic out there among the electorate, and we bring you in as our panic expert. >> demographic panic. >> exactly. we hit the demographic panic button, and you appear in a cloud of smoke. i think jonathan raises -- it's an incredible piece. a really good analysis in "new york magazine." it puts this in a larger context as sort of republican maneuvers top cement more power for an increasingly smaller piece of the american electorate, which is to say almost the minority piece, and that not minority in the traditional sense, but minority in terms of white rural conservative voters who are no longer...

Said, in places where there isn't even a border, where they're not seeing this as a direct impact on their -- but they're so passionate about this issue of keeping people out, do you read that as demographic panic. we don't want those people here and we don't care if they take their kids. >> i don't specifically read it that way. i get it from a religious segment. we're rewarding people. they're breaking the law. we're not upholding the law. through a is often confused now. i think where the president is going, one time i'm always not the defend like the president is, we have to force congress...