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The threshold at which nato is impelled to take action. >> is it possible to get the u.n. to take action? if you're passing the buck to the u.n., and you have russia and china who are not likely to authorize intervention in a country like libya, aren't you stuck then? >> well, there is a problem with russia and china, no doubt about it. but if the need were great enough, they could be embarrassed and do it. in 1999 -- or 199, we had a u.n. security council resolution authorizing humanitarian action in kosovo, which later was the legal basis for nato action in 1999 in kosovo. it's not impossibl...

Work, any decision by nato to do that, to implement a no-fly zone, days, probably weeks away. anderson? >> it's not clear that the opposition has weeks. joining us live from chicago, former nato supreme allied commander general wesley clark. and here in new york, professor fouad ajami, senior fellow at the hoover institution. fouad, nato is saying there needs to be -- three criteria met for a no-fly zone. number one is demonstratable need. you say gadhafi is smart and he's not going to do a srebrenica style massacre. >> this man is a jackal, he knows what he's doing. he has ruled for 42 years ...

The hoover institution. fouad, nato is saying there needs to be -- three criteria met for a no-fly zone. number one is demonstrable need. some would say killing civilians in a town like zawiya is a demonstrable need. you say gadhafi is smart and he's not going to do a srebrenica style massacre. that would force the international community to get involved. >> this man is a jackal, he knows what he's doing. you don't rule for 42 years and play the western democracies the way he's played them and be a fool. he's not going to do a srebrenica. he's going to wait. he has these people in his grip and...

Telling us in every way they can, we want rescue and we say we can't because we'll offend you if we rescue this. >> wesley clark, is there a need, in your opinion? >> i think there's certainly the united states would like to be engaged on the side of emerging democracy in the region. the question is how to do it most effectively. this is a civil war. there's clearly a right and wrong side as far as we're concerned morally and democratically in this. there's no love loss for gadhafi. on the other hand, we don't have any legal principle when people are in a civil war that you're going to go in t...

It has when it comes to freezing libyan assets. as for doing what the libyan opposition says it needs most now, and most urgently, namely a no-fly zone, nato is reviewing options. members making no decisions today, possibly doing nothing until monday and putting tight conditions on military action. >> firstly, there must be a -- a -- a demonstrable need. secondly, there must be a clear legal basis. and thirdly, a strong reason or support. >> we'll talk tonight about that no-fly zone with general wesley clark and professor fouad ajami. we'll also check in with all our reporters risking their li...