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This kind of attack that has taken hold. you now have nice, the berlin christmas market attack. you have london westminster bridge. you have charlottesville where people realize based on the demonstration of the effectiveness, the horror and the terror that ensues, not to mention the prompting by isis and al qaeda in the case of violent extremism this is a tactic that can and should be used against civilians. and the reality is, this can happen anywhere on european streets. unfortunately anywhere in the world. that is just a reality of the current counterterrorism environment. i think european...

Demonstration effect, if you will. gadhafi, moammar gadhafi in livia is a brutal and cynical leader. you saw what he was willing to do to maintain power, to hang on to power. he was willing to kill his own people. he was willing it besiege his cities in the eastern part of libya. that was frankly too much for the international community. for the rest of the arab world as well as for europe and the united states when we did choose to intervene. and so it may be that if the international community can show in libya that that kind of brutality is not going to be tolerated, it could possibly have ...