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Population define everything in a country. the cost of infrastructure and schools and health care is connected to population. it changes the country. why have you not thought about that? >> well, i guess, what i am interested in right now is a much smaller group of people. a narrow issue which is the dreamers. and making sure that they have a pathway to citizenship here in the u.s. you think in big ways and i try to be narrower. >> tucker: because it changed the country i grew up in some ways for better and some ways for worse. crowding is bad. beijing is a disaster. density matters. my questi...

Population defines everything in a country. byby the way, the cost of infrastructure, schools, medical care, all of that is directed canonically -- connected directly to immigration and population. why haven't you thought about that? >> what i'm interested in is a much smaller group of people, a very narrow issue, theseea dreamers, and making sure that they have a pathway to citizenship here in the u.s. that has been my focus. i haven't thought -- you clearly think in really bigg ways, and i try to be narrower. >> tucker: just because it's completely change the country that i grew up and in so...