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Before the horse here. it's a positive step that they have had this summit. i thought it was positive back last june when they did. this we haven't seen any steps in north korea since they enhanced production facilities continue to produce fissile material since then. i agree with david, if you have what the administration has said, meaning they agree on what denuclearization means. they have a road map for that and the north koreans freeze current capabilities, i think that's successful. i think it will take it a step further and be great if you get dismantling of i don'youdestroy missile tes...

The first is to define what's new denuclearization means. that means on our part, explain exactly what we need. the second part is to have a roadmap to denuclearization and an agreement on that and the third is any kind of enrichment or advancement in north korea as we speak during those negotiations. >> as i moved to you, bringing up those goals that were the result of the singapore summit, these were the goals going into that, we just heard about some of them. continue that point and what do you think a win for the us would be? >> time for the us to return to its initial verifiable irreversi...

We'll see what happens. >> max, should the president be thinking about a second summit with kim jong-un right now? >> not until the north koreans show that they're serious about denuclearization, ana. the first summit in june was a joke, where the two sides committed to denuclearization at some intermittent point in the future. they disagree on what denuclearization means. since then, north korea has actually been expanding their mistime program and not giving up their nuclear program. they have no intention of denuclearizing. a second summit will only reward them for their intransigence and m...

A result of a good relationship with mike pompeo. scheduled next month to go to north korea? >> for could be. he could be rewarding kim jong un of north korea for the dialogue that is happening, but the bottom line is that no real progress has been made since the singapore summit on what denuclearization means. the key issue here is unfettered access by american or foreign infect specters and there is no movement on that key issue. we have no idea heam nuclear weapons and how many missiles they have. this is a complete mystery and without a more detailed agreement, this talk is empty. >> if th...

Nothing happens. and this is two weeks ago he stopped secretary pompeo from going to pyongyang and now saying everything is okay. so this going back and forth between two extremes, and i feel like i'm being whip sawed. >> feels like nuclear whiplash. kim jung-un says he is waiting for president trump to take the next step, but what kind of reciprocal action does north korea expect and would want the president to agree to? because it seems as though we have two very different understandings of what denuclearization means. it sounds as though the president and what republicans would like to see ...