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Affairs. >> and there's a lot of people who would like video cameras, peter, in those cockpits as well, live video cameras if you will, streaming back to ground control. but pilots unions don't like that idea very much. >> no. the ntsb has made recommendations to have live streaming inside cockpits, but it has been opposed. but you've got three technologies. you've got the streaming technology, you've got deployable recorders. and each of those technologies have some drawbacks, but they can be overcome quickly. >> yeah. here's another question, this is for mark. could electrical failure blacko...

The plane isn't -- knowing an area where the plane isn't is pretty important information. and i wonder if they've begun surveying the bottom of the gulf of thailand already in thatareae can cross that off, we can begin to make a lot more sense. >> jim, you've been at the ntsb for a long period of time. understand the situation much better than any of us. have you ever seen a situation like this? and what is going through your mind right now? what do you think are some of the possibilities that could have happened? >> well, everything is still on the table. i'd pay close attention to, you know,...

Last known spot more in the south china sea? >> well, if i was leading this investigation, first of all, i would be very dependent on the experts in radar technology and aviation that work for the board and work for various agencies to determine. this needs to be an extremely coordinated effort and hopefully we're going to see more of that now that we have all of the right players in place in malaysia. but obviously this is not simple. this is why i have been a long-time advocate for deployable recorders, such as we have on our f-18. but that recorder -- deployable signal had this aircraft gon...

Will start pushing the vehicles around. that makes things difficult. visibility, if you're using cameras and the like to document the fuselage, that makes things difficult, too, because it might kick up sediments. so there are just becauses's shallow water doesn't mean it's a cake walk. still going to be tough. two things are going on. one is the humanitarian effort to recover bodies. very important. and number two, to begin the forensic investigation about what happened to the plane all leading eventually to i said for aing those black boxes, finding the fuselage. >> it seems crazy that in 20...