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Biden administration. massive sanctions on russia, perhaps including putin himself, increasing nato's posture in the east and then additional arms to ukraine. >> you're saying the policy of deterrence is working. >> i think it is, or should be stronger. >> there is discussion, cnn's reportingier iearlier this week handful is considering preemptive moves to move more forces to the eastern flank of nato, the pentagon's spokesperson john kirby asked about this this morning. i want to play his answer and get your interpretation. >> i don't have any imminence in terms of deployment orders from the ...

Alert. some of the troops are in that more ready state to be ready to go. now, pentagon press secretary detailed a couple different scenarios in which they would be given the deployment orders. first if the nato response is activated. in response to russian aggression and russian posturing on the boarderrder of ukraine. another would be if deteriorating security situation along the eastern flank of nato. these troops aren't heading into ukraine but they are intended to bolster the presence of nato ally along nato's eastern flank. >> now they are at five days. that's not the case for every

Commitment inside of nato. >> how will you know when your military goals are achieved? >> again, barb, there is no mission assigned right now. this is about getting troops ready. and back to what we're trying to achieve is a couple of things. obviously we still would like to deter vladimir putin and the russians from another incursion. number one. and number two, to make sure that we're bolstering and staying unified with the alliance. that the alliance stays strong. and so the large bulk of the reason for that -- these prepare to deploy orders is to make sure that we're ready to bolster the n...

Activation, there's been no deployment orders. it's difficult to tell how soon this would happen. frankly, a lot of this is going to depend on what mr. putin does or doesn't do, kate. if there's another incursion into the ukraine, certainly, i would believe could drive nato and other allies to make posture decisions that they haven't made yet. >> 85% u.s. military personnel on heightened alert. is this the ceiling of military personnel that the administration will be committing to this conflict, do you see? >> what we're talking about today is about 8500 on heightened alert, but as i said yest...

States contribution, to this nato readiness force event that would be on a high alert inside the alliance. all we're doing today is telling these units, you need to get ready and be ready to go on a shorter timeline than maybe you were before. no deployment orders today. they're not leaving today or the imminent future but we want to make sure they're ready. >> martha: you said it's true what the president said, that they would not deploy to ukraine. >> that's right. these troops if activated by the alliance, not but the united states but if the ready response force was activated, they would g...