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Still subject to the deportation process if that's the determination. also, open border is a right wing talking point. we have 654 miles of fencing. we have thousands of border personnel. we have planes. we have helicopters. we have boats. we have guns. we have security cameras. nobody has called for open borders. that's just a right wing talking point. >> and decriminalizing improper entry in your mind doesn't take away a tool to deal with the crisis at the border? >> not at all. this is the way we used to handle this up until about 2004 and at that time, there was still an immigration proces...

Table their original earnings have never been taxed either. so this is a disaster. but it's not a natural disaster. we have could have prevented it with a wall, mandatory everify, remit tant taxes and efficient deportation process you could fix it. it's not fixed because congress doesn't want to fix it. just today hud secretary ben carson faced a hostile reception on capitol hill, why? because he dared to sthawg illegal aliens should be ineligible for public housing. watch this exchange with congresswoman carol malone of new york. >> mr. secretary, the d in hud does not stand for deportation. ...

Improperly signed forms. some supervisors even gave their officers presigned blank warrants, in effect illegally happening them the authority to begin the deportation process. it seems i.c.e. has a mandate to grab as many people they think are immigrants as possible, not have to check if they're undocumented and get them out of the country. that's at least what it looks like. >> i think it's very clear there is a policy in place to try to make life very difficult for immigrants or people they think might be immigrants. one of the problems with this process is it creates an enormous incentive f...

Jurisdictions. >> cnn reported there is an i.c.e. officer fired last may for forging a supervisor for undocumented immigrants internal e-mails and i.c.e. documents obtained show that other officers across the five-state region were worked had improperly signed warrants on behalf of the supervisors on evenings and weekends and gave their officers presigned blank warrants illegally handing them the authority to begin the deportation process. it feels like i.c.e. want to grab as many immigrants, they think are immigrants as possible to get them out of the country. that's what it looks like. >> ve...

Burglaries and all sorts of other violent crime. it is unfortunate this issue gets mired in politics as opposed to sensible law enforcement policy. he pays the price, this officer and many lives -- i have bad dayss of people deported. come back in, deported, come back in. one in particular a 5-year-old boy abducted from a fair, brutally raped and murdered. i don't think we should be having policies that say we' rest everyone. local law enforcement shouldn't be involved in deportation process. >> eric: sanctuary city policy should be tailored to criminals. if you break the law you should be dep...