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The outs. they could use that with their leverage with kim jong-un. very interesting to watch. >> certainly, thanks for breaking it down for us, elise. now i want to bring in my panel to dig a little deeper on this situation. we have amy parnes, senior political correspondent for "the hill." julian else selser, a cnn polit analyst and historian at princeton university. and david edlesman is the former bureau chief, now with the national law school. amy, is the president scrambling for political victory here? do you think he wants this to happen too much, where he could lose leverage? >> yes,...

That something goes up. more american companies use steel then make steel. >> a lot more. >> we're talking about this being an inflationary force in our economy. bringing up prices at a time when, you know, the data looks good for jobs but if you look at american credit cards, if you look at debt, if you look at, you know, wages are just starting to tick up. we're really starting to feel this economy now after years of working hard and, you know, this is a long time coming. this is not something that happened in the blink of a trump eye. and so we need to consider all the ways that this admini...

Much from the white house in terms of concessions. what is it willing to give up. what do you think is realistic in that point? >> i think maybe the easing of sanctions from the white house. i think maybe that could be an option for them. you're hearing trump already kind of talk about that. why would we implement more sanctions when we're having this nice dialogue, as he put it. so i think maybe they would be willing to kind of give there. i think ultimately what the upz wants is to get rid of and eliminate this nuclear weapons program, and that's the end goal here. i just don't see how -- wh...

And i think, you know, they both have a little bit of leverage if they want to keep this going. the question is, what is really achievable. the president obviously concluded that that grand bargain that boris spoke about was not possible. you heard just a couple of days ago senior state department officials saying that for this summit to take place, that the u.s. was looking for something historic from the north koreans. now it's more of a get to know you. it's i think -- >> moving the goal post. >> moving the goal post. i think more realistic expectations of what's possible. it's not that not...

This is how economies fail. >> you're right. >> and we have no plan for the future. >> now wait -- >> -- and china has a '25 plan and we have no plan. tax cuts, policy, the trump administration is thinking about are negative and these tax cuts are not going to propel us into the next decade. it's a nice band aid. >> to stephen's point, you know, he brought up the whole continuing of the economy's heading into a positive direction. how much credit does president trump get versus president obama? i mean, it's been more than a year. the economy continues to go up and up and up. how much credit do...