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Security, and for that matter, american citizens? >> so i think that we have to take a comprehensive, all of government approach to this. and a lot of o people are talking about the troops being on the border, but that is just one element of the national security strategy that the president is trying to pursue. and i should say it's important to note that this is a national security strategy. by mattis going down just last week to the border, i think he gave a lot of credibility and relevance to this. he said publicly, we don't do stones. so in one bucket you have our troops at the border mean...

The president, homeland security, and for that matter, american citizens? >> so i think that we have to take a comprehensive all of government approach to this. and a lot of o people are talking about the troops being on the border, but that is just one element of the national security strategy that the president is trying to pursue. and i should say it's important to note that this is a national security strategy. going down just last week to the border, i think he gave a lot of credibility and relevance to this. so in one bucket you have our troops at the border meant there for a deterrence ...

>> in a conference call this morning, officials from homeland security at health and human services said 2,342 children have been separated from their parents in the month between ma. they insisted the children are being well cared for but they contradicted the dhs secretary who said the zero tolerance policy was not adopted to discourage illegal immigration. >> we expect that the new policy will result in a deterrence effect. we certainly hope that parents stop bringing their kids on this dangerous journey and entering the country illegally. >> 21 of the children removed from their parents ar...

Impossible to be able to target that ahead of time in order to stop this. if it's random against civilians unarmed, and it obviously parliament is an iconic structure, it's the center of the british power structure. it's obviously going to be a target. but even that doesn't give you the ability to be able to fortell that this is possibly going to happen. and that's -- one of the things that you've mentioned before is that britain and london in particular have so many cameras, but what that reminds us is cameras are not preventative. they are forensic. we're going to know what this guy did befo...

Were reportedly to be up to before the crisis. keep this in mind. we're only talking about 20 bad apples here across all of wall street. >> i'm wondering about the deterrence effect of this. the doj has these guilty pleas, the fines, will this be enough to stop the banks from engaging in antitrust violations or any other kinds of ethical behavior? >> zero deterrence effect. the fines will be seen as a cost of doing business. the thing that strikes me about this behavior even though it was a small number of individuals, is that it gives the lie to this idea that there's some kind of free market...