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Today you heard say sanction doesn't work. so is he right that sanctions don't work? obviously, they didn't work in 2014. those sanctions are by all accounts much weaker than those now being considered. do you think the sanctions they are talking about would work now? >> well, i think, you know, they are a key part of the deterrent package. the bietden administration i think is trying to make the point that putin faces incredibly clear. on the one hand, the biden administration offered a path to talk about things like arms control. conventional arms control. transparency measures, risk reducti...

>> that's harsh. that's harsh. the python thing i think we can all agree. >> swallowing a poodle hole is funny. >> maybe that crosses the line. >> and also the guys and dolls costume shop is fantastic. we are following a lot of news for you this morning so let's get right to it. >> we continue to see a campaign by russia to try to divide the united states. >> we're being hindered by the russian hoax. it's a hoax. >> we have a president that is not part of our deterrent package. >> president putin said the first issue president trump raised was election meddling. >> we don't have a signer pol...

A deterrent. the problem we have right now is we have a president who is not a part of our deterrent package. we have our apparatus pushing hard against russia and russian interference. the president comes out all the time and basically under mines that. that is where we find ourselves in trouble. i believe russia will take in calculations to start figure out we can probably get away with it because they will have president trump there at least for two more years to make sure that the blowback is not as harsh. >> it's interesting the national security agency director seems to suggest today tha...