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What's happening on the deterrent side with nato countries is absolutely right. in one sense, this is a unifying force from the end of the world and frankly it reminds of of how economically interdependent we all are. there may be an economic fallout that may be putin would come his way. >> such an interesting perspective. what do you think, it's one thing to win this battle and take over a country in the short term but does vladimir putin have the power to control the country a size of texas with such a significant resistance from the people, does he have the military force to control it in t...

Thinking they'd managed to do some of it in the g20 meeting in italy. you've seen gas prices in europe rising something like 300% since january. it is crippling for people as they head into winter. they don't want to risk any russian gas flows getting cut off to them. their gas prices rising even harder. it's hard when you can't heat your house and your bill is 300% higher than it was last year. what can the white house offer europeans or give europeans to keep them on board in the struggle against russia? what's the message? >> what we're seeing is a bit of the market reacting. we're seeing m...

Is to be depeco mended for underscoring this in his unique way and now finally starting to agree to that. but there were other things that were lost as far as that meeting was concerned. and i would like for you to talk about those for a few minutes. number one is on the deterrent side to increase nato readiness and speed up the time it takes allies to assemble and deploy forces. and that is a huge step forward. the efforts to improve mobility and establish a process to enhance the speed at which nato can make decisions, they fight against terrorism and increase the allied resilience against t...

This as only he can do in his unique way and actually getting them to start talking about it and now finally starting to agree to that. but there were other things that were lost as far as that meeting is concerned and i'd like you to talk about those things for a few minutes. number one is on the deterrent side, the 430s commitment to increase nato readiness and speed up the time it takes allies to assemble and deploy forces, and that's a huge step forward. the efforts to improve mobility and establish a process to enhance the speed at which nato can make decisions. the fight against terroris...

And that's something you hear in this building because there's an ability to retaliate. a lot of the talk about cyber is on the deterrent side. frankly, this sort of shrugging on the shoulders of what do you do if someone attacks back. a lot of the infrastructure, a federal system, it isn't as secure as a lot of folks here would like it to be. >> evan, you were in the cia. what do you do? >> i think it's about mostly sanctions. what hans said about cyber attacks is true. i think we need a robust offensive capability. we do. but our defenses are fairly behind. but i will say that we absolutely ...