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You have to balance multiple things as a judge to met terks out a sentence you think is -- in order to mete out a sentence that you think is appropriately. there are 113 letters submitted by friends and relatives speaking to who she was. having said that. there is a need for jail here because you want it to have some deterrent value. under no circumstance should they be hitting and running. megyn: david, a maps is dead. 3 1/2 years in prison. she left the scene. she didn't take responsibility initially. she seemed to have mislead the court when she said she didn't know she hit anybody. >> this...

I understand that there should definitely be consequences for behavior. like joey said, we don't want a columbine situation but at the same time, what happens to that kid when he stays at home for, you know, six months. >> joey, what happens when he has a criminal record? does that affect somebody mentally and emotionally? >> it could absolutely. what will end up happening, though, if you get a criminal record, you make a motion to expunge. why? you're in your youthful years. there shouldn't be a criminal record. in this particular case, there won't be one. >> i want to read what the attorney ...

>>guest: who hasn't? >>neil: i thought it was beautiful hair. but you thing that is unlikely? >>guest: unlikely. >>neil: he would appeal behind bars. >>guest: you can appeal behind bars but be out while the appeal is pending? no it could take years. that is a play on the system. and this judge doesn't want to play on the system. he was adamant about saying, not saying it in so many years this is deterrent value for politicians. if you do it you will get 14 years or more in prison. >>neil: just don't say it on the telephone. >>guest: don't be recorded. crazy thing is he did not make a penny off...

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Obligations. the new s.t.a.r.t. treatart tr.e new bilateral treaty that limits the number of weapons each nation can have. but one of the things we're told in this meeting, that the military and leaders who were in there in the joint conference room with the president, one of the things they said was we have this force and that's what we use in a conflict. the nuclear weapons are more of a deterrent value. >> and the context being, carol, that the day before had been the afghan review meeting in the white house. the president had sounded off again general in this canichols. and he said, you ca...