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Implication of this is? we all talk about trump will not be here forever. the untruths you're talking about, the culture of lying that has -- small things and on big things. what does that do to undermine both the medium term ambitions of the administration and the longer term credibility of the office? >> well, look, this is a phrase that recurs again and again with the trump white house. but it's moynihan's great line defining deviancy down. 12 years ago the white house tied itself into knots because they got words wrong in a state of the white house address in attempts to get uranium. it wa...

Thing. >> i know democrats that heard that and wld have never voted for it but they voted because they believe the lies of president obama. by the way, just a question. did president obama ever come to a jamboree? >> paul, when you look at that does it make you say this is what i voted for? that's going to make america great again or do you think he's losing the thread here? >> i would say it's not the leaders of america that make america great. it's the average american. i was a member of the boy scouts america troop 11. >> respect. >> we tackled a lot of issues that are bigger than politics....

The entire thing has been a witch-hunt, and there is no collusion between certainly myself and my campaign. but i can always speak for myself, and the russians, zero. i think it divides the country. >> joining us now, al hunt, columnist at bloomberg, and the host of bloomberg tv's political capital. al, i think all of us who remember the moynihan essay defining deviancy down are thinking about it every day with donald trump as a candidate, now as president. i know senator moynihan would want me to point out that it was not all original thinking in that paes piece. he credits emile durkheim's 1...

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The house and sent him to trial in the senate for lying to the american people, for violating his oath of office. for accusing a former president of a crime that president did not commit. defining deviancy down is a phrase coined by daniel moynihan in an essay in the american scholar inspired by the 1895 text the rules of sociological method. defining deviancy down in certain areas of our culture, when we do that, we risk some of the values we want to encourage. now for donald trump, the news media and the political class are defining deviancy down to the point where not just our political cul...