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That's what's happened today. there is no debate. there's very little actual thought. the role of reason is not playing the role it should in the arena because the basis of both parties hold people accountable to these purist tests all the way along. and so if you have a hearing and you ask -- god forbid you should ask a question to which you might want to know the answer, then you're sort of seen as wandering off the reservation. i think that's what mccain was talking about. i think he was talking about having a process where -- we can disagree but at least there would be an exchange. >> i th...

And just punt. listen, guys, we have to get a bill to conference with the house of representatives. let's scribble down a few words and try to pass it off as a procedural vote and we'll have the big negotiations in the conference with the house. that would be a total surrender, an abd indication to the house bill, and the result would be in conference the house bill with maybe a couple minor amendments would survive, and that bill of course is terrible for people with preexisting conditions, so that seems to be their only path now because they can't find 50 votes for any comprehensive replacem...

Democratic senator chris murphy from connecticut. senator, you were vowing to try to punch back with this health care bill offering up to 100 amendments. is it a delay tactic, maybe devil's advocate question, wouldn't you want to try to make it better as opposed to muck up the process more. >> i hope they pass and make the bill better. democrats have been shut out of this process. this happened behind closed doors. there is no committee process and no hearings so the only opportunity that democrats have to try to make this bill better is with amendments on the floor. back in 2009-2010 republic...

Of that conservative national strain of politics that ultimately delivered the white house to donald trump. so in distancing himself from sessions, what i will describe as cyber bullbullying, he's cyb bullying him into resignation because he won't say it to his face. he's ultimately conflict averse. you're left with a situation in which the right is starting to break from trump in a pretty significant way. you have rush limbaugh, who is not only a leading indicator, he's kind of a latter indicator, saying he's troubled by this. you have matt drudge, you have breitbart and even talker carlson, ...

Legal counsel, he does not want officials that are going to uphold the law of the land. high wants lawyers who want him maneuver of law of the land in himself favor. and so not uphold our rule of law and just throw it out the window and it's one thing when it's norms, which i'm concerned about, i'm concerned about all of the norms surrounding the presidency that this president has just completely destructed and the ethical lapses but now we're talking about the law and think that's when you're really going to see the uprising from republicans if he does take this -- if he takes it too far with...