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And respond to these issues. >> alex, devil's advocate here. set aside the base and the president's, you know, very high up in the president's re-election dam pain are telling people, listen he can't win, this is purely about rallying the base and it's a turn out strategy now to get folks who are already with you. is it true that this is politically smart for the president, or is it more true this is really the only strategy he has? >> i think it's clearly the only strategy he's ever truly been comfortable with. it's happened with a lot of people who run for office for the first time and win, ...

Perfectly. lindsey graham is a political wind sock. this is a guy who cares more about keeping his own job than the jobs of the people in south carolina. so what he has done is he has evolved. he is a chameleon. he is changing his colors just to benefit himself. he epitomizes what people hate about politics. this is somebody that i used to think had some type of moral compass, some type of background, but we have found in south carolina the question that you say you're hearing from tons of people, what happened to lindsey graham, i hear that all the time, in the grocery stores, in restaurants,...

Has no backbone. he's just doing what's in his best interests, and that's sad. and that's why we're building an army, jaimeharrison.com to send trump back home. >> let me give you the devil's advocate of defense of the wind sock here. it's a state that the president won by 14 points. he represents the republican party in which the south carolina republicans i'm sure have an approval rate of what, 90% or something for donald trump. he is just representing his constituents. south carolinians in the main like donald trump so, lindsey graham is there to defend donald trump. what's wrong with that?...

Begging them to help. they sat on their hands. since the supplement has passed, the border had 2,500 kids. now 300. >> laura: and now the asylum rule from bill barr. it's going to be challenged by the aclu saying if you come through mexico, you cannot claim asylum in the united states. they use the emergency powers that congress gave the executive branch to do this interim rule making. my administrative law is kicking in here. so is that something that will help you? >> absolutely. laura, i hope the american people do research, this is basic international law. that if you're fleeing a country ...

On their hands. since the supplement has passed the border had 2,500 kids. now 300. >> laura: and now the asylum rule from bill barr. it's going to be challenged by the aclu saying if you come through mexico, you cannot claim asylum in the united states. they use the emergency powers that congress gave the executive branch to do this interim rule making. my administrative law is kicking in here. so is that something that will help you? >> absolutely. laura, i hope the american people do research, this is basic international law. that if you're fleeing a country and seeking a soil lump, the sta...