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The third broadly line of work is what is deconstruction of the administrative state. and if you -- if you look at these cabinet appointees they were selected for a reason and that is the deconstruction, the way the progressive left runs is if they can't get it passed they'll put it in some sort of regulation in agency. that's all going to be deconstructed. >> the often discussed rarely heard enigmatic white house strategist steve bannon laying out how he wants to dismantle the government's administrative state. still misunderstood by people. a new book details the relationship between bannon ...

Relationship between bannon and president trump. there it is, it's called devil's bargain" steve bannon donald trump and the storming of the presidency. it was released today and already number one best seller on amazon, the author joshua green after an exhausting initial day is with us during the shank of the evening here this evening. he's also the senior national correspondent for bloomberg business week. congratulations to you. >> thank you. >> how is this anything more than svengali and sigh fer? >> because trump won't allow himself to have puppet strings that somebody else is going to pu...

It's still the law of the land. so they get hammered there. then they get hammered on the other side from their democratic opponents who are saying they've said they're going to repeal obama care and in so doing, the cbo says that 25 million less americans are going to have health care insurance. they're going to get it from the right. they're going to get it from the left. it is a genuinely bad idea. but that's what the republicans have been doing since being given power. a monopoly of power in washington d.c., and the architect of this, president steve bannon. josh, let's bring you in. you'v...

Said, hang back, i don't want you involved. now that hasn't worked out either. the problem is there isn't anybody up there with legislative experience that knows how to pass a bill, and as i say in the book, trump ran on a message that was in direct opposition to what people like mitch mcconnell and paul rieb wanted to do. he ran on a populist economic message that addressed the needs of working class people. passing this health care bill would take away medicaid for all sorts of working poor. it doesn't jibe with trump's message as a candidate. we're seeing how it's going to fall apart. >> th...