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[cheers and applause] john: as i look here, i see disproportional white men in ties, even bow ties. they look like the over class. i would think it's a turnoff. >> there's a lot of white men here. it has more to doowith libertarianism being nerdy more than anything else to be honest with you. i'm a nerd myself, so i can say that. john: all right. this is all food for thought. audience, i want to ask, whose argument is better? who is more persuasive? let's have a vote. who sides with julie, not argue by sex, race, and ethnic groups? [cheers and applause] john: who sides with kathy and says we s...

Of a statue they are uncomfortable to walk around campus, go to class, and learn, something is wrong with our level of tolerance for the different views. you're going to see, you know, white men, maybe in their underwear sometime in your life. you can't let that throw off your entire lifestyle. john: thank you, robert. [cheers and applause] coming up, we'll talk drugs and privacy, but next, are you students ripped off by your college? i think many of you are. that's next. [applause]

How can we convince them? kathy and julie say they know how. julie has a youtube channel called token libertarian girl. kathy is editor of a blog called sex and the state. which is a cool title. [laughter] kathy, you say to open other people's minds, libertarians should check their privilege. what does that mean? >> unfortunately, libertarianism is overwhelmingly dominated by straight, middle income, well-educated white men, nd so -- john: the overclass. >> right. how can we make libertarianism appealing to other people because the demographic is decreasing as a percentage of the population, g...

John: personal safety. >> gives me services, but the nsa says i give you personal safety, or i might put you in jail; right? this is kind of the backstop. going the can't put me in jail. the nsa can. john: let me poll the audience, who agrees with her? [cheers and applause] who agrees with me? very few. i'm losing this. all right. your turn, students. >> i'm michael line, doing political philosophy at the university of arizona. i'm self-diagnosed with bipolar disorder and a host of medicines i take with a host of side effects, and i don't think it's anybody businesses how a drug interacts with...

Well-meaninged authoritarians say we can reduce the amount if we make it illegal. >> and that's worked out so well so far. [laughter] john: they argue more of it. [applause] >> like this, you know, cocaine inventing machines, is it the american way? i get than an alarming concepp to people, but if you look at the huge damage that the war on drugs has done, the disproportioned damage to black communities, students' lives ruined, the costs are huge, and it's not working. heroin is cheaper now than it was 30 years ago. john: nsa spying. when the nsa spying story first broke, i upset libertarians ...