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Report from actually inside the facility from one of the lawyers is, i think, the most important sourcing we have, because we're at the point now where lawyers are just about the only people who get in there. >> and they're lucky when they do, actually, lawrence, because, for example, these lawyers were allowed or able to get into this facility thanks to the floor settlement, this law that's been discussed now that we know the administration is bent on getting rid of. it's simply thanks to that law that they have the ability to go in and inspect these dhs facilities where children are kept. it...

And moveon as partners. our panel is back. joe, who you do you think is white house is going to look at the protests? do you think they have the potential to make any sort of tangible difference in. >> i don't think that the white house, white houses in general don't really respond to protests, because protests take place every day outside the white house walls. they did when i worked at the white house, that being said, i think the president is going to continue to listen to his woif and to his oldest daughter, ivanka. while ivanka will never openly disagree with the president, i know behind ...

The children will be detained along with their parents for an indefinite period of time? does this take us back to obama administration policies, which i doubt it does, where people are held with their children for 20 days and then released to the general population in the united states along with an order to appear in court at a future date? does it say something else? if it does say the former, which is that children can be held indefinitely in detention with their parents, you can beat in a heartbeat the american civil liberties union that the californian district, in the ninth circuit cour...

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