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Of all internal advice and communications between your department, public health england and your— department, public health england and your ministerial team on hospital— and your ministerial team on hospital discharge and care home testing _ hospital discharge and care home testing certainly for the period from _ testing certainly for the period from january to april? i�*m testing certainly for the period from january to april? i'm very ha - to from january to april? i'm very happy to make _ from january to april? i'm very happy to make sure _ from january to april? i'm very happy to m...

Ramping — at no point scale down, you were ramping up — at no point scale down, you were ramping up testing capacity all the way through and you wanted to scale that up— way through and you wanted to scale that up in_ way through and you wanted to scale that up in february but you had to privatise — that up in february but you had to privatise testing. just before the first lockdown, what was the plan for the _ first lockdown, what was the plan for the prioritisation of testing? yes _ for the prioritisation of testing? yes this — for the prioritisation of testing? yes. this was impor...

Macro at that point. the challenge though, was, the scale of the capacity. and i had driven that as hard as i could within phe with my indirect, therefore hands on the levers. then in the middle of march we had a meeting in downing street at which we had an array of test providers, we had the phe team who were doing that, the testing, and i took personal charge of the testing. i know you wanted to expand capacity, i'mjust i know you wanted to expand capacity, i'm just trying to understand the strategy. you confirmed you were not offered south korean style test and trace as an option. figs kor...

Have one of the strongest border policies in the world. at my reflection at the time, and this is very important for the lessons learned, is that the only way we could have stopped, the world could have stopped this virus getting out of china is if china itself had stopped people leaving china. as soon as people were allowed to leave china to go to one place, unless the whole world take action on borders, as they have now, it would only have delayed to a degree. that was the clear clinical advice and it is one of the things we absolutely must change at the global level, that part of the respon...

With flu preparedness because we had vaccines ready to go on flu, and we've got antivirals. but for a coronavirus, there was no vaccine and there aren't any proven antivirals either. so what i said is absolutely true in response to the question. he asked me, are we ready for ebola or a flu pandemic and i said we have full plans for those things. but of course at that time, 25th of january, we were working incredibly hard on responding not just to ebola orflu but responding to what we knew of what became covid—19. to what we knew of what became covid-19. ., ., , ., covid-19. how many of those...