Either, you know. yes, you have people who are frightened for theirjobs, but you understand that better than anybody. you've seen the devastation of unjust transitions in the uk. but if you have a look at the south african labour movement, cosatu, along with ourselves and indeed the european union, the us government, the european regional development bank, we raise the money, indeed the seed money, 8.5 billion just last year, to allow south africa to transition its energy source to renewable energy. there's a joint dialogue table. this is serious business. and what about the australian mining ...