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Costs them a lot. and they came to court and said we're entitled to protection, too, under that law. it was a tough case. we looked at the law, and it says any person with a sincerely held religious belief is basically protected, except for strict scrutiny. what does person mean in that statute? congress didn't define the term. so what does a judge do? a judge goes to the dictionary act as you alluded to senator, the dictionary act is an act prescribed by congress that defines terms when they aren't otherwise defined. that's what a good judge does. it doesn't make it up. it goes to the diction...

Costs them a lot. they came to court and said we're entitled to protection too under that law. it's a tough case. we looked at the law, and it says any person with a sincerely held religious belief is basically protected, except for strict scrutiny. what does person mean in that statute? congress didn't define the term so what does a judge do? a judge goes to the dictionary act, as you alluded to, senator. the dictionary act is an act prescribed by congress that defines terms when they are not otherwise defined. that's what a good judge does. doesn't make it up. goes to the dikdsary act, and t...

They came to court and said we are entitled to protection too under the law, tough case. we looked at the law, and it says any person with a sincerely held religious belief is basically protected except for strict scrutiny. what does person mean in that statute? congress did not define the term. so what does a judge do? a judge goes to the dictionary act, as you alluded to, senator, the dictionary act as an act prescribed by congress that defines terms when they are not otherwise defined. that is what a good judge does. it does not make it up, it goes to the judge do not dictionary act, in the...

Most charities are corporations. the the federal dictionary act, which governors what federal terms mean under the term person it includes corporate persons and there's no reason why you would think if you're a corporate forum, you can't exercise religion. >> mr. ryan you're not a corporation. you're a human being. now you may work for a corporation, but the rights of you far exceed that of a corporation and this right now, if you connect the two, opens the door for blatant discrimination. >> that's not true. that's not true. hold up. >> no it is true. >> organizations do have rights. "the new...

Constitutional rights of others. even those very different from himself. that's why my question at judge gorsuch's hearings focused on his view of american's rights to privacy and liberty to make their most personal life decisions. at the hearings, i focused in on a case written by judge gorsuch, hobby lobby, which for the first time allowed for profit companies to refuse to provide thousands of employees access to family planning based on the for profit corporation's religious beliefs. i laid out in great detail why i viewed that as not just an overreach, but that is wildly outside the contex...