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Were tied as a result of that. that is essentially what happened here. to the extent that this charge could have been presented in a plain and responsible fashion the entire system has responsibility for that. >> coming up, juror b-29 said zimmerman got away with murder. now calls to stand your ground law are getting louder. plus, why attorney general eric holder may be bringing his voting rights fight to north carolina. . and bill o'reilly continued the desperate approach to change

She should have hung the jury. carolyn stood up for maddy saying none of us know the kind of pressure put on this woman. and nell says the juror system is very flawed. stronger people convince others that they are right. we'll have much more on juror b29 and growing questions about the stand your ground law in florida. that's coming up. but first, we want to hear what you think too. please head over to face book and search "politicsnation" and like us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. begins with arthritis pain... and a choice. take up to 6 tylenol in a day ...

And that's that the law was read to me. >> now marcia, she talked about the way the law was read to her. isn't that a reference to the stand your ground's impact on jury instructions? >> you know what, reverend? i'm not so sure. when she said that the law required proof of an intentional killing, that's not the stand your ground law. that's the law that says -- that is required to show intent to kill for the purpose of either proving second-degree murder or manslaughter, for that matter. so what she is referring to isn't the stand your ground law. i believe the other juror previously who came ...

We're back with juror b29, making the red hot spotlight on the stand your ground law even hotter. today trayvon martin's mother spoke passionately about it. >> the absolutely worst telephone call you can receive as a parent is to know that your son, your son you will never kiss again, all because of a law, a law that has prevented the person who shot and killed my son to be held accountable and to pay for this awful crime. >> the stand your ground law gives you the right to kill if you feel threatened. and here is the key part.

Were they thinking he was telling the truth but he still had the option even if telling the truth to get away and avoid this situation or were they not believing him and if they weren't believing him, why did they acquit him? this is what's inconsistent in the jury decision. if what do you call it, stand your ground legislation really was influential here? i don't think it was because if it was, we'd have some clarity here. my thought. what's yours? >> i think you're right. my understanding is that the defense itself was did not invoke stand your ground. and i know jeb bush and some other repu...