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>> back in the books segment tonight, pod cast master joins us now from los angeles. >> do you want a shot of petraeus tonight? >> yes. i would. go. >> i don't mind a guy who cheats. that just means he has testosterone. look at all of the greats that cheated. mlk, jfk, rfk. do you know who didn't cheat? jimmy carter. >> that makes me nervous. >> and there is a void there,
Mlk. jfk, rfk, all the greats have cheated. you know who didn't cheat, bill? jimmy carter. he didn't cheat on his wife. >> bill: calvin coolidge. >> yeah. the part -- the only part that makes me nervous is the guy is the director of the cia and he can't keep this liaison secret? that makes me nervous. >> bill: that's a good point there, carolla. talking about should be a little more stealthy. i have to correct you though. r.f.k. we could not find any marital marital stuff with him. all right. now, you live in los angeles. and elizabeth warren lives in massachusetts. very very far away from you...
We've done our job when we get complaints from both sides. it's an interesting discussion, one we'll be sure to continue going onto november. dana thank you. bret, see you tonight. >> you got it, this weekend too down in tampa. megyn: bret and i have a lot of work to do. >> we'll see you there too. "the five" is going to be there. megyn: maybe we'll swing by, bret and make it the seven. you don't want us. thank you, buddy. br erbs t has a great show coming up tonight at 6:00pm. one thing he never has is "kelly's court." today's is a real great one. a group of gamblers win is 1.5 million bucks ...
>> can he credibly make that case? can he say i want a cleaner fairer tax system if i've been exploiting every damn loophole i can find? >> sure. of course he can. he can turn this around in a heart beat. a prominent republican today said he should go elliot ness on wall street. >> let me give you the worst case. i always assume. mooi dal you've been in politics. you know if it is better than it looks they'll tell you. if it is better than it looks. it looks bad, he's hiding something. suppose he's hiding the fact for several years he didn't pay any taxes. suppose he's saying a lot has squirre...
Surpri suppose he didn't pay any taxes. do you think that's going to be something he's going to be able to defend? >> absolutely because unless he did it illegally, he play eed b the rules everybody else played by. >> it's going to be embarrassing add hell, but if he didn't cheat, he isn't a cheater. what is cheating is the tax code. >> i just got a -- disagree. the voter out there that both candidates are looking for is a working class guy and woman out there that doesn't make a ton of money. all they got is what they live on. these people are saying i'm losing my job, the plant's closing dow...