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>> well, it certainly didn't drive what happened in south carolina, where in a very conservative state, lindsey graham won in a landslide. so you're seeing different voices in different parts of the country. i actually think it's healthy for us to have a debate on important issues. you're seeing that right now. i think our party is becoming stronger. we got a lot of great candidates running for senate. my own view is we're going to pick back the senate in the fall of this year. >> about hillary clinton, whom you've have mentioned twice in the context of our belief that she's part of a failed f...

Campaigns, but also major issues. people are upset about what's happening with the failure of the president to carry out our immigration laws. they're seeing what's happening at the border and i think that probably -- >> but this is within the party. is the tea party populism driving the republican party, what it believes, what it stands for, and will that continue through 2016? >> well, it certainly didn't drive what happened in south carolina where in a very conservative state lindsey graham won in a landslide. so you're seeing different voices and different parts of the country. i actually ...

He was up 24 hours. is this a legitimate problem? >> i think the bigger problem is, i drove a long haul, i didn't drive, i was on a long haul truck when i was in college. the pressure on the drivers to get there by the companies are very strong and the biggest problem i saw on the road were lousy drivers. people would cut them off. those truck drivers are very good drivers. the problem is when you go to a truck stop, you can get two thing right away. speed and the other thing. >> and cinnamon rolls. >> it's a tragedy. >> i think there are laws against this. you are supposed to keep a log of wh...