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Admit i always say nothing is going to surprised me any more, but when i hear that a sitting republican president might get on air force one and go into a district and campaign against a sitting republican member of congress, what is going on? >> well, i think it comes down to the fact that these members of congress didn't elect president trump to be president. the voters elected president trump. and he came in with a platform of trying to take care of a lot of the problems that are facing america right now. and for him to go after the house freedom caucus, i don't blame him. i mean, i think o...

Then 2008 and 2010. what is the political lesson you are taking away from what happened in the last 24-48 hours? >> a couple of lessons. number one, everything that people did to have their voice heard had a huge impact. it made the republicans scared and mostly, it made them confused. they really couldn't find their tail as much as they were chasing it. that is because the majority of americans that i'm part of, didn't vote for this man, didn't elect him and the majority is still out there. the majority did not want this. by the time of last night, the last poll that showed 17% of the america...

Quickly tables had tushed in just the last eight or ten years that i've been covering politics between 2004 and 2006 and then 2008 and dwen. what is the political lesson here that you are taking away from what happens in the last 24, 48 hours? >> a couple lessons, number one, everything that people did to have their voice heard had a huge impact. it made the republicans scared and mostly it made them confused and they couldn't find their tail as much as they were chasing it. that is because the majority of americans, that i'm part of, didn't vote for this man, didn't elect him and the majority...

Tail as much as they were chasing it. that is because the majority of americans, that i'm part of, didn't vote for this man, didn't elect him and the majority is still out there. the majority did not want this. by the time of last night, chris, the last poll that showed that only 17% of the american public liked the republican health care plan, 17 -- they're down to 17% so huge, huge movement there. a lot of people, you saw this in west virginia when you went there with bernie. people are getting it. they're getting that they were lied to. they were held out -- a lot of promises were held out ...

Democrats. they elected barack obama twice. they didn't elect hillary clinton, but voted 58% for her. they don't come out during the midterms. they don't come out for down ballot voters. our leadership is old and creeky, including me, and we've got to have this guy, 36 years old, running this party. >> i believe i called him the governor there. i don't mean to promote you there, pete. here's a question. does this matter? i mean, people pay less attention to parties. we've had two presidents in a row who were elected largely based on the power of their personality. president obama was not known...