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Available so you do see bizarre situations. there did come a point in time, so everybody is clear, they realized it was legitimate and some help was out out -- put out there, but jason hit it on the head, you have to look at exactly what happened. i heard parts of the actual tape myself, which is available to listen to, and again, you know, with a 99 percent, thank god, success rate, this is just a very bizarre, bizarre situation, but again, if it's determined that the controller in good faith thought that it was a flight that didn't exist -- doesn't exist and they're familiar with every night...

Left from standing water that had evaporated. if something bad happened on mars, too, i want to know. >> i want to come back to that for a second. >> not for too long. >> we mentioned in the '60s, it was all about tomorrow. >> yes. in spite of that being a pretty bloody decade. >> there's been a conservative effort, but there is a cohort of a political party, even among the most educated, whose faith in science has dropped in the last 20 years. what accounts for that? >> i have an idea. i think it's because the government hasn't participated in a big science project where the discovery is writ...

>> john, five years ago, can you believe it's only been five years ago that the iphone is with us, and there's the late, great steve jobs saying we were going to revolutionize the cell phone. and they did more than that. they revolutionized the way the world talked. >> it's an incredible thing. 23 years before that, steve jobs introduced the mac and people, the interface was the first time computers ever looked like that. and six or seven years after that, every computer looked like the mac intosh. smartphones didn't exist, touch screens, and now five years later, nobody buys a phone that does...

And -- it's all right, you can applaud. it's okay. >> it's early. >> it is early. >> john, five years ago, can you believe it's only been five years ago that the iphone is with us, and there's the late, great steve jobs saying we were going to revolutionize the cell phone. and they did more than that. they revolutionized the way the world talked. >> it's an incredible thing. 23 years before that, steve jobs introduced the mac and people, the interface was the first time computers ever looked like that. and six or seven years after that, every computer looked like the mac intosh. smartphones di...

It's, what are we going to do now with them? >> thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. that is the issue. >> i agree with all of that, but are you really going to look someone in the eye who lost an arm and a leg and say, what you just did was all for nothing. >> nobody's saying that. am i going to look the soldier in the eye and say, you've saved the world because we invaded iraq for weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist, because we don't have the balls -- excuse me -- we don't have the balls to admit that we screwed up and we're going to take care of these kids. we'll take a bre...