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Roosevelt was. or even ronald reagan was. they turn back to that reasonable, list but they're not going to do it on their, own in the democratic party today, is the only vehicle available, to make that happen. >> 60 seconds, remain you know they're going to go to the mattresses, and you know about the kind of money they're going to raise on the other side, so what is your, what is your tactic to deal with that? that disparity? >> the incumbent, lieutenant governor, already has $20 million, mainly funded by large corporations that got what they wanted through the force of the legislative sessio...
Are contributing already to our economy. the answer is to grow our economy to create more jobs. >> that was a very astute answer, didn't answer the whole question of illegal immigration, guys, but did deal with the hatred of people who have been here for 20 years, which is stupid, the idea to deport people who have become americans, maybe this is my particular ax to grind, didn't fix the immigration problem. go ahead, howard. >> i was going to say, that this is going to be an election where people are going to lose, who you never expected to lose, and it's going to happen in both parties. it's...
Eight years for them to become a citizen. bill: when does he do it? >> i'm for amnesty. i would do exactly what ronald reagan. bill: right now? >> yeah. i would do exactly what ronald reagan did. >> what reagan did, didn't fix the problem. >> i don't, honestly understand what the complaint is here by republicans that the president is putting together a plan on the off chance that congress can't get something done. congress has shown that they're actually pretty bad at getting things done. so i think it is smart for the president to have something to, have a plan. this is not the final plan. so...
We're still going to have to fix medicare over the long-term. >> bret: $38 trillion in the hole. >> that is the reason we have to -- that's the reason i put forward a fiscal commission based on republican and democratic proposals to make sure that we have a long-term fix for the system. the key is this proposal doesn't weaken medicare. it makes a stronger for seniors currently receiving it. it doesn't solve the big structural problem, bret. nobody is claiming that this piece of legislation is going to solve every problem that has been there for decades. what it does do is make sure that the tr...