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Coming to the conclusion that you know there's no collusion and i ask that because, how can you come to that -- i can understand if you said, we didn't find it among the people we've interviewed but how do you make it a hard conclusion when you didn't interview michael flynn, steele, george papadopoulos, how can you confidently make that conclusion without those conversations? >> yeah. so a couple comments on that. a number of the individuals -- most of the individuals you just mentioned are under indictment therefore we can't interview them. they're now under the purview of the special counse...

We don't know that the e-mails have all been turned over. >> the very fact that she would look to the state department to release something on her behalf maybe poked at something being wrong here. there wouldn't be a need to if they were all turned over. >> she decides from her server which ones to give to the state department. so -- >> who helps her decide that? >> cheryl mills who is a person already accused of having sorted through and ran the accountability board. she was the one that was briefing them when they didn't interview hillary clinton. >> and they fired ambassador under hillary f...

Tell us. >> no, no, look what happened. when they talked to the people -- >> pretty please with sugar on top. >> it worked. >> with sugar on top? >> how was he behaving -- he shut up when they tortured him. >> in the real world in the real room when ksm was using enhanced interrogations that in fact he started singing like a bird and that they gave him direct knowledge of the courier which led us to osama bin laden. do you think it was wrong for america to kill bin laden? >> no. >> you don't think it was wrong? >> the senate torture -- >> if ksm was swinging like a bird, why waterboard him 193...

They refuse their employees getting blood transfusions on religious grounds?" the lawyer says at that point each of these would have to be evaluated on its own. then they struggled on through the first half of the argument. this is a case at the supreme court today that has been championed by conservatives and republicans as a test of religious liberty. at its factual core, though, it really is about the question of whether or not your boss gets to decide on the basis of his or her religious beliefs whether or not your health insurance covers your birth control. joining us for the interview to...

What we've also got is text messages. remember, there was two massachusetts state troopers and one fbi agent there. one of the massachusetts state troopers who was on scene for the interrogation at 10:28 p.m. that night, trooper 1 sends the following text message. "he signed miranda." meaning he signed away his miranda rights so he'll talk without an attorney present. "he signed miranda. about to tell us his involvement." 20 seconds later the same trooper texts again, "standby to standby. half an hour later he sends another text message. "he'll be in custody after the interviews." 43 minutes a...