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That information and appears not to have been done. i think there is a, going to be a fear among the american public there's ban whitewash here. i think there has to be congressional testimony by barr. i think there will have to be mueller coming forward, too, and letting the american public see the report and absolutely the letter raises far more concerns than it does provide answers. >> how long does it take to go through the special counsel's report in order to identify material that cannot be released publicly, the grand jury material and anything else? >> such a great question. at the end...

An obstruction charge is imminent, regardless of anything to do with this sessions issue. what do you make of that? >> i think that the president's legal team, as a criminal matter, i'm sure would argue that the president didn't obstruct justice and would make a defense against that. as a political matter, in the face of a possible impeachment allegation that the president behaved in a way that, you know, impeded the due administration of justice, i think the answer is, duh! right? i mean, you know, they're just facing a certain reality there, that when mueller decides to drop a and line up al...

Holt -- >> they prep him to lie every day. >> what? we have to get to some more -- harry, what, they prep him to lie every day? hope hicks prepped him to tell a lie? what was that? >> oh, my god. >> i mean, she was a white house staffer. is she saying she saw the white house team -- isn't he being investigated for potentially object instructing justice? this is like staring at the mirrors and the mirrors of the reflection fun house reflections. that didn't seem like a very smart thing to say -- some people want to get involved in the special counsel investigation. i've actually seen a little b...

That did grave damage to the fbi's reputation in the public eye, back in the fbi category in your earlyest days, it is ingrained to you above all things, never embarrass the bureau, and that's what pete did. yes, he was a great counter intelligence agent, but the damage he did to the incredible perception of the bureau which has to remain apolitical can't be recovered from and his effectiveness was gone. that's why he's out of the bureau today. >> and i heard similar things from democratic and republican alumni and current officials of this justice department of the fbi, even one while i was r...

So, this memo is a top to bottom set of, you know, legal claims, ual claims, arguments why he didn't obstruct justice, couldn't have obstructed justic. but the one that's really breath taking and that makes all the rest of them not matter if it's true is this vision of a president who wields absolute unrevealable control over the justice department, over the machinery of the federal law enforcement, as a result he can