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His telling, that's precisely what they were worried about. >> right, you have matthew saying that's a lie. and using to your point, unusually strong language to go after these two generals. an important piece of context for all of this is that everything about the way the pentagon and the d. c. national guard prepared for january 6th, was totally in reaction to the summer of 2020. when the u.s. military responded in a way that was deeply disturbing to protests in washington d. c.. so what everyone at the pentagon was thinking, is how do we make sure the national guard doesn't go too far. how ...

For all of this is that everything about the way the pentagon and the d.c. national guard prepared for january 6 was totally in reaction to the summer of 2020 when the u.s. military responded in a way that was deeply disturbing to protests in washington, d.c. so what everyone at the pentagon was thinking how do we make heuer the national guard doesn't go too far? how do we make sure the pentagon doesn't overreach? how do we make sure we don't overreact? that was the number one concern. and well, congratulations to the pentagon. they certainly didn't overreact. the problem of course was that th...

That's not happening on the basis of anything that transpired today or will likely transpire tomorrow. what we do see that i think you and i will disagree on is in the testimony from dan coats and mike rogers, the national security council guy -- they refuse to answer questions. the democrats -- i've also say marco rubio and the independent angus king of maine, he became infuriated with them. the white house hasn't invoked any executive privilege. why are you able to come before our committee and say to us, "oh, we can't talk about this. we'll tell you privately." of course, there are no priva...

Transpired today or will likely transpired tomorrow. what we do see that i think you and i will disagree on is in the testimony from dan coats and mike rogers, the national security council guy -- they refuse to answer questions. the democrats -- i've also say marco rubio and the independent of maine, he became infuriated with them. why are you unable to come before our committee as we are trying to review the facts and then say oh, we can't talk about this. we will tell you privately. of course there are no private hearings scheduled. >> dana: i do think, kimberly, the president benefits from...

>> well, i think if the discussions occurred around ensuring there was no overreaction by the russian government so that the new administration could do like all the previous administrations who think they could work with putin, which all three have been wrong, they cannot work with putin, if that was -- if that was what general flynn did, which is to try to keep the lines of communications open and to see -- make sure the russians didn't overreact and maybe have some reciprocal attacks on our diplomats or other embassies around the world, that did us a big favor. >> reporter: it sounds like h...