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Them helping save the lives of other people. i think that is so, so important. i don't want that to get lost in all of the other details of this investigation. >> so when you wrote your book "mass shooting: six steps to survival," john, and you heard some of the steps individuals were taking to survive this mass shooting, what stood out to you on that front? >> i heard witnesses say they heard the shots and instead of just dismissing it like we've heard in the past, they actually drove away from the scene. they grabbed their children, they put them in a car. they found cover behind vehicles or...

And, of course, to me, safety at the end of the day is most important. it will not deter us in conducting our operations. >> undeterred and sacht fety thp priority. joining me, mark jacobson, former senior adviser to defense secretary ash carter, also a professor at amherst college. mark, how do you think the u.s. handled this possible near collision? >> well, let me start with the crew, the "uss chancellorville." i think what they did is admirab admirable. it's always dangerous out in the open ocean. you know, of course, we can look back at the "uss john mccain" and the "fitzgerald" and the c...

They didn't panic. griff: despite attempts to do otherwise. story we are looking at now, the consumer confidence is tells a different story than what we are seeing in these day-to-day slides. >> consumer confidence is is remarkable. last friday the university of michigan came out with their number far better than wall street anticipated. not just the surveys. it's action. we see the holiday sales. at least the best in six years. amazon having its best selling period ever. consumers are two thirds of this economy. i don't think we are going to go into recession next year and perhaps not even in...

He goes by himself and he sits down with a notably tough prosecutor and the thing that's really interesting is that he apparently did a really good job. he apparently answered the questions. he apparently didn't panic or perjure himself. he knew how to like always tell the truth but don't always be telling it. >> let's see how, you know, you talk about how fear is factoring into michael cohen's world and who knows how fear will factor into paul manafort's world. telling truth and nothing but the truth with regard to this president. michael daly thank you so much. next the first daughter ivan...

>> did any of the other divers talk to you about their demeanor in those five or six hours that it took for them to make their way out? were they able to remain calm? >> so i was on a part of the group about 200 meters and on that part of the route there was none the kids -- there was no events of panic. everything was very smoothly according to the plan that was made for the boys rescue. >> which is fantastic news. having been in that cave -- >> it was -- >> talk to us about the challenges. talk to us about the challenges. we've been told for even the most experienced professional cave diver,...