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Candidates, at the end of it all, at the tend of the series of seven debates, lincoln did win the popular vote on election day, but at that time about popular vote didn't choose who your senator was. senators were actually decided by the state legislature. and the state legislature in illinois that year, they didn't pick lincoln. they picked stephen douglas. that was 1858. and then two years later, the same two guys, lincoln and douglas, abraham lincoln, stephen douglas squared off again. second time, though, it wasn't for an illinois senate seat. second time it was for the presidency. by that...

Another nine senate campaigns, according to the center for responsive politics. in only one of those races, in nevada, did the republican candidate prevail. rove's awful election night proved that you can't buy momentum or create it simply by decreeing it and that there's a boundary to what bluster accomplishes. the road he zoomed down in 2012 was toward a potentially diminished place in his party. john heilemann, go ahead. do you agree? >> well, there's -- >> what? say it! >> there's just a lot to say -- >> why do you have a problem with this? >> no, there's a lot to say about karl. i think i...

Pick leon panetta. secretary gates ban the budget cut considerations, he was also deeply reluctant to have it go as fast as the president wanted. leon panetta, having the experience with capitol hill that he's going to have to contend with to make these budget cuts in defense, was really quite a smart pick on his part. but this is not going to be easy. and you know, the other interesting thing we haven't talked about, john, is who president obama did not pick for some of these top posts. he did not pick david petraeus to be chairman. david petraeus was recommending to the president, slower dra...

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