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To make difficult choices, sacrifices. and here they are presented with both incentives on each side to make cuts. republicans presumably don't like defense cuts. democrats presumably don't like cuts to human needs programs including education and housing. yet they both allowed automatic cuts to kick in beginning in 2013. i think it's -- it was a terrible day. the president said yesterday this was not as bad as august. maybe because s&p didn't react immediately. i think heading into thanksgiving, into the christmas toll day, this is the heaviest and biggest retail season of the year. for the a...

There's not enough bench strength. they don't have the reserves to fully staff the towers. what we're seeing is the normal symptoms of somebody under enormous stress. somebody happens to be the entire air traffic control system. >> let me turn to mary. it's not as though there's not just a bench that's lacking. we're putting only eight guys in the field when you're supposed to have nine in a baseball metaphor, it's baseball season. you were the i.g. for the system. are things getting worse right now based on everything you've seen and heard? >> yes, for a variety of reason, not least of which ...