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Continuing. and that our intelligence agencies tell us that it's going to certainly continue through the next election. and the president and the republicans in the house for that matter refuse, refuse to do anything about protecting us from an attack. imagine if fdr are denied that the japanese attacked us at pearl harbor and didn't react. that's the equivalent. >> it's a bit of a different thing. >> they didn't kill anyone. >> they're destroying our country. >> do you really think it's on par? >> not in the amount of violence but in the seriousness, it is very much on par. this country exist...

Anything about protecting us from an attack. imagine if fdr are denied that the japanese attacked us at pearl harbor and didn't react. that's the equivalent. >> it's a bit of a different thing. >> they didn't kill anyone. >> they're destroying our country. >> do you really think it's on par? >> not in the amount of violence but in the seriousness, it is very much on par. this country exists to have a democratic system with a small d. that's what the country's all about. this is an attempt to destroy that. and the president's core, the presidential oath is to preserve, protect and defend the co...

In order to create the false appearance of support for what the trump administration did with that rule. and that appears to have happened hundreds of thousands if not millions of times in the comments that were accepted by that federal agency before they made this deeply unpopular decision to kill net neutrality. so, again, whether or not you care about it as an issue, the trump administration voting to scrap it when 83% of the public disagreed with them on that, that was a little weird. what was really weird was learning about this whole universe of fake public comment that was created aroun...

Implications of this pretty incredible piece of reporting that you guys have now publi published. the drama involves the sort of human interaction between this campaign adviser, george papadopoulos, and a australian diplomat that didn't react initially to what papadopoulos was mentioning. part of what you guys report is there was a delay of a couple months before australia saw this as important enough information to deliver to u.s. authorities, right? >> right. so, the drinking session in london happened in may of 2016. this was a couple weeks after, according to muler's documents, papadopoulo...

Instead, it was first-hand information from one of america's closest intelligence allies. so says this new reporting from "the new york times" this weekend and so says the firm that paid for the dossier as of just about one hour ago tonight. joining us now is washington investigations editor for "the new york times." it's really nice to have you here tonight. thanks very much for being here. >> thanks, rachel. good to be back. >> let me see if i understand both the drama and the implications of this pretty incredible peace of repoiece of. the drama involves human interaction between the campai...