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Clothes that saturday afternoon. >> she asked if she could spend the night. i would have loved to have been able to say yes, but i had to work and i had to tell her no. >> restless, cindy then made that unauthorized visit to her girlfriend, cathy's house, where she used the phone to finalize plans for what was supposed to be a surprise birthday party for scott the following day, the sunday. cindy hadn't said anything about a party to her mom. >> it's always troubled me that i didn't have her stay. i wondered what kind of a secret that she was trying to get around to telling me. >> by 3:00 sund...

Your house on the phone? >> yes. she called art to confirm the plans of the next day. >> cathy heard cindy tell the person on the phone that she'd look for his white van between 10:00 and 11:00 the next morning. cindy told her girlfriend she had a birthday present for scott. she asked cathy to please come along with her. cathy said her mother wouldn't let her. >> when she was leaving my house, she turned around to me and she said, will you please just show up? just say you're going to be there. like a reassuring, like she needed someone to really truly be there, and i said i'll see what i can ...

>> my thoughts are that one of the greatest cons in the history of politics is every four years how donald trump puts his toe in the water but never jumps in. >> tell me what you really think. no, i mean it's interesting -- >> come on, to me -- i have to say something. i started to tell my radio audience that i would come up with some cockamamy radio scheme like walking down the street naked if trump ever got into it. i have already done that so they don't want to see me do it again, but he'll never do it, and when this show is over on, what, may 22nd -- >> why do you believe he'll never do it...

Others driving down dark streets, looking for the blond teenager. had she run off with scott? was this her little rebellion against her father's grounding rules? where could cindy be, missing now for more than 12 hours? >> at that point, we were still hoping that she had just spent the night at somebody's house. >> and i remember my mom coming into the room saying, do you know where cindy is? she said, if you know anything, you better spill it. >> now, you're a 13-year-old yourself. do you know where she is? >> i was concerned right away, yeah. >> but on the bright side, this was east detroit ...

>> how'd she talk about this person, art? >> she was just very, you know, very friendly with them. that was pretty much it. >> did she talk to this art at your house on the phone? >> yes. she called art to confirm the plans of the next day. >> cathy heard cindy tell the person on the phone that she'd look for his white van between 10:00 and 11:00 the next morning. cindy told her girlfriend she had a birthday present for scott. she asked cathy to please come along with her. cathy said her mother wouldn't let her. >> when she was leaving my house, she turned around to me and she said, will you p...