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That might be bannonite, too. steven miller who was seen as a bannon ally before he jumped ship to krishner's team, this is what he said back in february talking about the travel ban reaction to it. >> our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions that the powers of the president, to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned. >> that struck most people, kurt, as creepy. >> and never seen on tv again. >> but inside of breitbart world. inside of the trump die-hard base, how is that kind of talk received? >> well, it's ex...

Would like people to believe. >> april, look, i just sat down with these die-hard trump supporters. on election day they would have given him an a. slowly a few of them are starting to question his leadership because in large measure this russia stuff there is a lot of smoke. so even though nobody has connected the dots and there s no smoking gun, it's just enough to clearly knock him off from the agenda that he had set out and to plant the seed of doubt with some people. >> there is a lot of concern, not just for democrats but for republicans and for this president's die-hard base. and you ha...

On a personal basis. >> if you lack at the most recent poll that was done before the debate but after the tape, she's up 14 points. what does trump need to do? >> how can he close the gap? he's clearly -- what he should do and what he's doing to do are two totally different things. he's going to focus on the base. the lock her up statement, that gives him the biggest cheers. it always has. in cleveland, an audience of thousands of people chanting lock her up. that's always been popular. it's core to his base. he revives this conspiracy theories about the clintons that have been around for more...

He's part of thistreme attack people, don't come up with ideas, demagogue the democrats and clinton in particular, divide our country. it's a really sad thing that we're seeing. and i pray he doesn't win. >> it's a sad thing. but how big is that base? we watched donald trump fire up that ann coulter, sean hannity universe. is it big enough to win an election? >> it's not big enough to win an election, but it's big enough to divide the republican party. and that's the sad thing. you know, the tea party folks are good folks, but they said don't compromise. don't give in. and protect the constitu...

Private privately in but publicly makes this comment, but to say i'm only going to focus on house races and keep my endorsement and not go out and publicly endorse him, what kind of mix and match is that? i don't think it helps him. >> does this help donald trump? we know donald trump's base stays with him no matter what. many of them are anti-establishment, so they can take the position, screw paul ryan. screw john mccain. >> that is the position they're taking. >> is there enough people, is donald trump actually expanding his base or just playing to those who are attending his rallies who ar...