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When you look at it and a guy like robbie mach even though on the hillary campaign in 2008 many ways he got -- he spent a lot of time getting to know some of the obama folks, mechanically when he ran terry mcauliffe's race i think on the mechanics and putting the other organization and building a state by state infrastructure i do think that's where these folks are going to make the difference. ultimately this is about the candidate, right and what she's comfortable doing and what she's going to do. and i think that that's why you can do all -- you can tinker on process and they're doing that....

People watching msnbc will revel in delight. right now hillary clinton is getting ready to announce this weekend or monday whenever it's going to be, they all want to say we're the -- republicans want to win, they want to, you know defeat clinton more than anything else i'm the best man to do this. i think you're going to see this over and over again. >> david, in terms of the announcements happening this weekend, marco rubio is supposed to announce on monday and feel like every time this guy tries to make a power play he's big footed by someone or something else. there is the strange sort of ...

The first was sort of the toxicity of the bush presidency in 2008, unhappiness with the iraq war, exhaustion, all that. but i think the eight years of the post presidency of george w., the way he's acted in extremely dignifyied way has in many ways change that had and also simply the distance of time. >> right. >> i think the other negative, and the one that i think effects you and me, just about anybody, there's something just not quite right about die nastic politics. yes, we've had it with the adamssadams and roosevelts. on the other hand, if you run against hillary, that could be neutraliz...

The modern news cycle where cable news is sort of faster than it's ever been, twitter, facebook, all these different ways of communicating he wasn't really ready for it at that time with that book. the question is certainly he's had a lot of time to think about it if he's going to run for president he needs to show he can handle it. >> a new way of communicating that whips the news cycle into double or triple speed. >> it's one thing to be the first op e-mail, another thing to adapt all the way through. >> very good point. hillary clinton, if she decides to run, i'm assuming -- i'm covering hi...

In august 10, democratic primary out there. what is with this? the former president bill clinton endorsing romanoff? we're back with the panel. charles? >> we have stirrings here of die nastic rivalry of not quite sharons peerian -- shakespearean rivalry but it will get there. bill himself was wounded by the one statement that obama made in 2008 where he said reagan was the president of historic consequence and clinton was not. it enraged clinton. he doesn't forget. we get nostalgic and they become popular in time. elder bush, though he lost the re-election he became popular afterwards. bill, ...