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Long. i'll give you my copy of it, if you would like to have a copy. even though you haven't read the law, do you have an opinion as to whether it's constitutional? >> i have not really -- i have not been briefed yet. >> by the way, that is absolutely incredible. as you mentioned, gretchen and steve, he's under oath. he can't say i read it and have some specific -- >> unlike when you're on "meet the press" when you're not under oath. >> the other thing to be said. this is the problem which the way some americans get the message about this immigration law and other things in general is he says ...

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And if it was -- if you didn't spend it, you'd just get to pocket it. >> what is the incentive to give back to your -- give the money back to your employer. we would. what's the incentive to not do something that's business related. we would do that naturally, the three of us and the other camera guys, i'm not sure about. joe, the floor manager, sure. just because after a while when there's no accountability, you start to abuse it. between 2007 and 2009, lawmakers made 230 trips using military transports, planes, at a cost of $500,000 per trip. >> this is why americans are so angry right now b...

$t $900 billion. >> this bill will be fully paid for, done within the health care system and it brings down the deficit. >> how many times did we hear that it brought down the deficit? here's why this is so important that now it costs $115 billion more. why? because every member of congress that voted for health care reform could put themselves right under the cover of the congressional budget office and them saying that it was going to save money and reduce the deficit. that's their cover for voting for health care and now you find out that in fact, those numbers were wrong. my question this ...

Part of an elitist plan to, you know, redistribute the wealth. kind of spread it around a little bit. >> oh, man. also regarding having read -- i haven't read the whole bill but read big chunks of it. it talks about how some states would be able to decide, you know what? we're going to opt out of that off-shore drilling thing so you know that a bunch of states are going to opt out so why even bother? >> oh, yeah, you know, here in california up and down the west coast, we've opted out since the 1969 oil spill in santa barbara. this bill does nothing to improve our security. in fact, it makes u...