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Sounding crazy. he says, people forget i'm a comedian. i'm trying to go for the laugh. i'm trying to -- he finds it entertaining when all of us sit around and call him nuts. you look at that headline. you're nuts. he loves that. there have been occasions where he said something and his manager said, cut that out. we shouldn't do that. and charlie said, no, use it, use it, use it. >> so we're feeding into it. >> he did that tmz interview yesterday. it was like 45 minutes, no edits. he wanted the whole thing up. >> jeff rossen, thanks so much. you can see more of your interview on -- >> you see ...

With $200 million to bfigure ou who they're negotiating with. industry does it, too. i guess it's part of the process. >> it is. >> but it has gotten really ugly and it's gotten ugly because -- >> collective bargaining in the end should come out with a rational outcome and it's clear that we're not getting that rational outcome and that's what we have to figure out. >> thank you, gentlemen, for doing news today. >> willie, did you have something? >> this has only just begun in wisconsin. the budget that comes out today, walker is going to announce $1 billion in education cuts. >> he can't back...

>> who could have seen that one coming. >> right. so he's not going to -- folks, he's not going to madison. he's not going to do any kind of direct intervention. he's being presidential. he's standing with people in his base and people who are -- who are hurting and that's about as far as it's going to go. >> kelly, can i ask you a question on the hill? republicans on the hill, are they -- what's their take on this wisconsin crisis? i haven't actually seen them running out to the barricades calling for an end to collective bargaining. >> well, part of it was the timing. they were all home in t...

Destructive course towards more war and violence. yes, he was warning that unless we reform, we're going to be facing a lot of troubles. nobody foresaw this coming, but unless this region moves with reform and solving the peace process, we're going to be in trouble. >> why did king abdullah write this book? what's the purpose of this book? what does he hope for americans and people across the world to get from it? >> understand the region, understand the need to have peace, understand that there is a lot of potential in that region. it's not that the -- the west and the east are not on a colli...

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