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Clapper said? >> director clapper is a very wiseman. in fact, it is something that we should all be concerned about. it's also something our adversaries are well aware of. when the leader of the united states is so easy to distract by either flattery or some other provocative activity, it is a threat to the rest of us and it becomes even more important that professionals are in place to look out for the national security interests of the nation. >> how worried are you at this point when you look at the state of the state department, when you look at that bloomberg news reporting how the staff ...

Now, the problem is that oftentimes whatever the standard is becoming, whatever president trump says or does, that becomes the normal, and it's by definition acceptable and appropriate. well, it isn't. >> director clapper, thank you very much for being with us tonight. appreciate it. >> thanks, john. up next, the republican side. what republican lawmakers are saying and what they're not, and why not. we'll speak with two republican non-lawmakers about the thundering silence. i can't believe it.

Would respond to something like that? >> well, you know, if we weren't two and a half years into this administration, that would be jaw-dropping. i was really taken aback by that. here we're going to ask an adversary of ours, that's what china is, who, of course, is famous for use of practicing the rule of law. we're going to ask them to investigate a political opponent. and he does it brazenly and in the open. in a way he's sort of indicting himself. now, the problem is that oftentimes whatever the standard is becoming, whatever president trump says or does, that becomes the normal -- it's by...

Needed to say something about no quid pro quo. that struck me as very out of context. >> to that point again, when you have the acting ambassador saying, quote, i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign, this is in the middle of a lengthy back and forth around midnight, and then it takes sondland five hours to respond with his no quid pro quo line and he asks to take the texts offline. director clapper, how significant is that? >> well, as i said, it's quite significant to me. at least what i was reading into that and i was struck by the fact as well...

>> we would have to look. >> director clapper, is it just a coincidence that the only investigation president trump knows about involves a political rival? >> what a coincidence that is. of all the concern about the corruption of ukraine, and that is an issue there, but he only signals out one or two people, you know, vice president biden and his son, who just happens to be leading right now -- leading the polls as his primary opponent for 2020. what a coincidence that is. and then of course what really struck me was publicly, brazenly inviting china to investigate. a great rule of law propone...