MSNBC Hardball With Chris Matthews September 20, 2019 23:28:00
Off him, it's tough to get in his head and what we can clearly say is that in this particular case it did not work. it did not deflect any attention. in fact, people are just going deeper into this, and there's been more reporting on it. the one thing i would correct on is this idea that it quid pro quo offered, and there may have been one offered between trump and zelensky, b the ukrainians were not even aware that assistance was being delayed or reviewed until a month after that phone call. >> one last question. it looks to me rudy is out here doing something bill casey did for ronald reagan...