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Effort by the white house, the president describing this as democrats, to discourage mueller from testifying. the justice department has stopped two of mueller's top aides from testifying so and they will go after the credibility of why did this investigation start and based on bony documents. >> you're right, that is where they will go. [laughter] >> it's been a wonderful opportunity for congress to humiliate itself once again. >> you are all pessimists. chris: the other thing i find discouraging is that instead of giving their time to the chairman or one member or a staff member and let him ...

President describing this as democrats, to discourage mueller from testifying. the justice department has stopped two of mueller's top aides from testifying so and they will go after the credibility of why did this investigation start and based on bony documents. >> you're right, that is where they will go. [laughter] >> it's been a wonderful opportunity for congress to humiliate itself once again. >> you are all pessimists. chris: the other thing i find discouraging is that instead of giving their time to the chairman or one member or a staff member and let him for an hour have talk they will...

See that can knock donald trump out, i use that as a metaphor is going to be the winner and that is going to drive everything. people go i like this, i like this, the fear of donald trump, the fear of four more years of donald trump, if i'm tim ryan, if i'm castro, elizabeth warren, anybody, convince me that i can get rid of that ogar. >> there were so many instances in 2016 in the republican debates where one republican after another failed to stand up to donald trump. one of the most discouraging for me isas a jeb supporter is when jeb told trump he owed his wife an apology, and trump said n...

Because you get the most exposure. so i think that was a great part of my wanting to act. and i also had a very subjective feeling that in each part i would find part of myself which would make me feel better about myself. ♪ >> one of the reasons i think that they perhaps had a disagreement is because he was a little bit discouraging of her doing acting. i think perhaps he didn't consider it as high an art as she was capable of. >> you know, he wrote me a letter and said don't let "vanity fair" fool you, your real talent is your painting and you should concentrate on that. don't think that p...

I don't think the men and women there are riding the trump rollercoaster. i don't think they wake up every day breathlessly awaiting his latest tweet, the latest insipid tweet from the president. they have work to do. they have serious and important work to do and they will continue to do it. so i wouldn't over react to it. the statements he made are wrong. they're discouraging, as i noted they're insipid, but they are not going to undo the work of the fbi. >> just for emphasis let's listen to chris wray about a month ago talking about the law and reality. >> i think my view is that if any pub...