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Disobedien disobedience. thoughts on today's mlk day on news anchor and the author of "what runites us." mr. dan rather, thank you for being with us. good to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> i want to ask you on your thoughts today and about your, how you think we should absorb what just happened with the latest racial controversy involving the president and his remarks are source of contention and in terms of whether or not it was racist as it seemed, how do you absorb this new news? >> i am sure i cannot absorb it. i cannot read donald trump's heart. we'll have to judge him by what

Acclaim but this has deadened the radicalism. king was a deeply contentious person at the time of his death. the clarity of his mission for justice was not welcome in many corridors of power. i believe that many who now pay to his legacy would be singing different tunes if king was rallying disobedience toward the causes of racial and economic fairness. thoughts on today's mlk day from long-time cbs news anchor, host of "the big interview" on access tv and what unites us, mr. dan rather, thank you for being here. >> good to see you. >> really good to see you, too. i wanted to ask you about you...

I'd get back to my house on a narrow beach in malibu. i loved to body surf and would go in every morning before i went to bed, and i remember at some point during this -- being in the waves and the sunlight and looking back at the hills of malibu and thinking, how can i be doing this? how can i be giving all this up? >> i was 13 at the time. he said there was a secret history of the vietnam war that he'd been reading and had a copy of this. and he had decided that he wanted to make a copy of it and make it available to congress. he described it in terms of sieve the disobedience would i help h...

And those things are what led me to realizing that i was going down the wrong path after i started getting in trouble with the law. abuses, slanders, disobedience. >> i think having a clean cell was so important to dennis because it gave him something to do. but it also was something he had control of. oftentimes, especially in a lockdown setting, you don't have control over many things. the one thing dennis did have control of was his cell. >> put these back in order here. without being clean and in order, i feel like i'm out of order. as long as i'm out of order, i know that i'm not doing th...

>> hang on tight. >> i don't want to go there. i'm better off in the dorm. we'll see, but >> i have to protect my officers. okay? >> that's okay if you get me a bunky, okay. >> hang tight. >> i got kids, man. i do not want be living with weird os. >> i don't want you to lose your mind. if i go back to t set, bro, i'm ratesing hell flood my cell. i'm going to be a havoc to these [ bleep ]. i can play games. >> this is a write-up for disobedience. and pounding on the door. yesterday my cell got raided so they gave me another couple of write-ups. >> he fulfills his promise, but finds himself on t...