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Had -- these moments where he has seem incredibly authentic or where he -- he -- he would come across as a real person who was out there chopping the brush away his ran zblch high -- ranch. >> you know, it is -- there is -- there is always an aspect in every speaker action you are having with every other people that a part of it that -- i think it is -- what happens in the speech like that philadelphia speech where you feel like it is something that got worn away and you are seeing through to some -- true thing. you are talking about. >> one thing i'm struck by reading different speech cess th...

What makes it so powerful is he seems to almost be like a figure with race. right? high's inhabited both worlds and now has the gift of prophecy because he has been in both worlds and channels that. this is xan example of him doing that at his most effective. the -- remarkable speech he gave after the jeremiah wright thing blew up and on the campaign trail. the real moment in political life where a speech saved a -- politician's -- they were in trouble and they had to mack a really good speech. they made a good enough speech they were no longer in trouble. this -- this is a small section. take...

Journalistically, to press you on this point, does it not get a more accurate flavor of the speech if you do not have the video to transcribe it in the way they did? >> hide the coates. that's a genuine question. switches. >> i personally believe to do that undermines the power of the -- this man is probably one of the most intel gentleman presidents we had. >> ever. >> since jimmy carter. now i will get him in trouble. to do that, you know, it is -- something is very ignore an about putting -- like tom sawyer and huckleberry finn-ish. when we have a black president, which we never had before,...

Just say it. i know you know it. don't be afraid. we will get it if you say it. at times -- the president has muff -- knocks it out of the park you see the gap between the creation and the man vanish. it is not storytelling as much as just -- >> authenticity. >> truth expressed efficiently. who can resist that? >> this is a question of authenticity. in what is so difficult about being a politician, i have seen this from covering politicians, precisely that you are trying to artificially protect himself at that time. that is your job. because if you are up into yourself is and show things about...

Experts, are going back to the drawing board trying to recon fig rate what happened. >> they were counting on them not to show up. that's part of the republican winning strategy. they would never make that mistake again of thinking those groupings would just stay home and not raise their voices. >> now, we've mentioned other people throughout the night. everyone has been president and others. what about bill clinton? nobody's wrought his name up. >> well, bill clinton has been a winner for a while. but i think what he did for the president, particularly in that dnc speech, which was juls unbel...