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One when that letter was written. she was there the weekend he decided to fire comey. yes, she's his daughter but a close advisor. she is open for business. and as far as calling his son-in-law disposable, you know, that's a harsh word. >> do you think he knows that jared is in some sort of legal trouble we don't know about yet? >> i think they all do. >> that's what's scary. jared is -- >> ivanka, you'll be fine. >> jared, if you're watching, when the subject of an investigation's lawyer says you're disposable, you better run and get a lawyer. i mean, this is not just some guy talking on fox....

Some sort of secret health problem that the press was hiding. i mean there was a lot going on here before he walked in, and i think that he had to have known tha5/ and made his own calculation to join. but i think lawmakers are still making their own calculations, especially as the midterms loom, how they're going to deal with this. >> rudy did memorably say to chris matthews that he had seen hillary lifted on to planes. clint, you're our reaction guy. i'm going to play a little bit more of rudy giuliani, and i need you to react to this. >> i think i would get on my charger and go right into t...

Son-in-law. they talked about him. >> jared is a fine man. you know that. but men are, you know, disposable. but a fine woman like ivanka, come on. >> the president chose to put on his staff his daughter and son-in-law. they are in the west wing. few people are closer to the president. measure that against what you just heard. >> yeah. this is why we don't put our family members in work roles that, you know, serve the president. he put them there, so ' they don't behave in legal ways, if they're not following and protecting the u.s. constitution and pursuing it to the best of their interests, ...

Honestly agree to you and i fear for the country. >> if they do do ivanka, which i doubt they will, the whole country will turn on them. >> what about his son-in-law? >> he's a fine man. but a fine woman like ivanka, come on. >> oh, there's a lot in there, isn't there? norm ice i don't kneisen is sti. this can be taken a number of ways. is it a message? is it some sort of threat not to talk to ivanka. jared kushner is expendable. that's a whole thing in and of itself. when you listen to that, though, is it also something that could fall into the category of obstruction of justice? >> well, to ...

It was a kind of a freudian slip by rudy. he was showing his hand. we've always speculated trump would be willing to sacrifice almost anybody. jared must have thought i'm possibly on the chopping block. and i'll bet his first reaction, just speculating, was what do i have that i can give up on the president to save myself? so the rudy appearance was so undisciplined. and what they're getting in the new lawyer who's coming in, emmitt flood is discipline and precision and care. a single mistake like this, if this, for example, leads to jared now being nervous, it can be catastrophic, and rudy ma...