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Howard. you have the fact that both tunisia and egypt are fragile right now. that is something the president himself cited. you heard hillary clinton talk about this is of big interest too you're. all of these nuanced arguments, can the president do nuance tonight with the american public? or is he going to have to create these phony black and whites a pegt pekts to the war because it's easier to sell? >> first of all, i wish i had been able to be in the green room afterwards where, you know, secretary gates dropped the bomb saying it's not in our vital interest and hillary immediately came in...

Unilaterally under any circumstances, but remember, one of the wonderful things about the ejips and tunisian revolution was they were indigenous. no one could say this is the u.s. meddling or france meddl g meddling. the middle east does not like foreign intervention, let alone western intervention. and it was to balance those two together. it was incredible that it was played well enough that now we have receptivity by an arab public that historically opposed any western intervention across the board. if you look at the sentiment in the region, it's far more hospitable to western intervention...