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Insight on that. the trump team team saying merrick garland, the attorney general belong in jail. they are prosecuting trump rainout to possibly bring another indictment and he is saying he belongs in jail? >> not going to help with the judge in this case. federal judges don't take kindly to defendants lashing out at a prosecutor personally or the attorney general. once again, that may play well with his supporters and his base, it will not work well for him and course. as for the document, you are right, the fact that he turned this document back undermines a little bit the case on willful re...

Possible testimony? >> well, yasmin, it's a secreté proceeding. we may not know for sure what he's being asked for some i]tim. it's been very clear infá this investigation that special counsel jack smith needed to get to the bottom of whyi] donald trump's lawyers executed and signed a document back in june that said that they had looked or trump had looked for all á

To what we've seen with president biden and former vice president pence. and you will recall the reporting that donald trump, shortly after the national archives, requested their document back, that he reviewed his boxes and knew what was there. nonetheless, he failed to comply with the subpoena, even had his team send in the certification to doj, signed under f. we're giving you all the classified material back, at a point when he knew that wasn't true. and that's what accounts for the different treatment of trump, as opposed to the others. that's what caused a federal judge to sign off on a ...

Remember that there's a different experience of dealing with classified information at the principle level. so, heads of agencies, cabinet secretaries, certainly the vice president. folks like that have a -- while they're in office, have a need to have access to top secret, sensitive materials. h24 hours a day, every day, hen they're home, at the office, traveling domestically or abroad. they have staff members and security folks that are constantly following them with classified documents and they immediate those things to be ready for meetings or briefings and those sort of things. the opp...

A situation you never want to have happen with federal prosecutors. i think it increases their resolve, if needed any increasing, to charge him on the mar-a-lago, something about the episode. i think it does go directly into here is someone, look, if they are still there, but he won't tell them, and of course to hugo's point, the reason no lawyer wants to do that is because they know they have a liar for a client, they can't trust. it may be, in the short term, they don't get every document. doctor in the longer term, it built a stronger case that he has not given every document back, which is...