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Be for prosecutors, do you think? >> dan is right. this is what we would call a document case. it's going to be dry. it's a complex investigation, but, of course, the challenge for the government, for the prosecutors, is to turn a complex investigation into a relatively simple and if possible sexy story for the jury at trial. i'm confident that this experienced trial team will be able to do that. but i see a relatively straight forward evidentiary trial when all things are said and done. >> how big a moment is this going to be, greg, having paul manafort in the courtroom? this is going to attr...

Stand? >> i don't think there's any doubt we're going to have people who show up for jury selection who obviously already know about the case. the key issue is can they keep an open mind. so i think it's going to take at least a couple of days. normally jury selection in federal court especially in that court goes real quickly. this is going to take some time. as far as manafort testifying, i don't see that happening. again, it's a document case. and i think manafort's best defense is to be patient and wait for a possible pardon from president trump. >> all right. page pate, appreciate it so m...

Disclose that he has foreign registered shell companies and then transfers money from those accounts to his interior designer, to his clothing person for high end suits, et cetera, et cetera. homes and all sorts of other luxury items. and so it's a pretty -- it looks to be like it will be a pretty intensive document case as you would expect in a tax fraud, mortgage fraud case. and i think that's ultimately what this exhibit list illustrates. >> the prosecutors have a big job here because an important person in manafort's life flipped and as you put may be kind of a naritator in this trial. >> ...

Et cetera. homes and all sorts of other luxury items. and so it's a pretty -- it looks to be like it will be a pretty intensive document case as you would expect in a tax fraud, mortgage fraud case. and i think that's ultimately what this exhibit list illustrates. >> the prosecutors have a big job here because an important person in manafort's life flipped and as you put may be kind of a naritator in this trial. >> i think rick gates is going to be on the stand for at least a week. i think he's going to narrate this entire scheme. >> he's the keeper of the secrets. >> he's the keeper of the se...

There's a lot. there's a $21,000 watch. there's a mercedes and a range rover. i guess this is the predicate you lay down in a financial trial. the guy made a lot of money for a lot of years. he likes the good life and you take it from there. >> and in order to get that money into the united states without paying taxes on it, he funnels it through any number of shell companies, doesn't disclose that he has foreign registered shell companies and then transfers money from those accounts to his interior designer, to his clothing person for high-end suits, et cetera, et cetera, homes and all sorts ...